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Thursday, July 21, 2011

Another MInnesota ALEC expose from 2009, New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/us/29states.html?8au&emc=au


Health Care Overhaul and Mandatory Coverage Stir States’ Rights Claims

Ben Garvin for The New York Times
“All I’m trying to do is protect the individual’s right to make health care decisions,” said State Representative Tom Emmer of Minnesota. “I just don’t want the government getting between my decisions with my doctors."

ST. PAUL — In more than a dozen statehouses across the country, a small but growing group of lawmakers is pressing for state constitutional amendments that would outlaw a crucial element of the health care plans under discussion in Washington: the requirement that nearly everyone buy insurance or pay a penalty.
Prescriptions Blog
blog from The New York Times that tracks the health care debate as it unfolds.
Joshua Lott for The New York Times
Efforts are underway in Arizona to bring about state constitutional amendments to block the possibility of insurance mandates and government-run health care.
Approval of the measures, the lawmakers suggest, would set off a legal battle over the rights of states versus the reach of federal power — an issue that is, for some, central to the current health care debate but also one that has tentacles stretching into many other matters, including education and drug policy.

Opponents of the measures and some constitutional scholars say the proposals are mostly symbolic, intended to send a message of political protest, and have little chance of succeeding in court over the long run. But they acknowledge that the measures could create legal collisions that would be both expensive and cause delays to health care changes, and could be a rallying point for opponents in the increasingly tense debate.

“This does head us for a legal showdown,” said Christie Herrera, an official at the American Legislative Exchange Council, a group in Washington that advocates limited government and free markets, and that earlier this month offered guidance to lawmakers in more than a dozen states in a conference call on the state amendments.
So far, the notion has been presented in at least 10 states (though it has already been rejected or left behind in committees in some of them), and lawmakers in four other states have said they will soon offer similar measures in what has grown into a coordinated effort at resistance. (Arizona, which has placed the amendment on its ballot in 2010, seems the furthest along.)

Here in Minnesota, as in many of the other states, the move to amend the State Constitution is being driven by a handful of Republican lawmakers. The proposed amendment itself does not advocate some particular alternative plan, but sets what its authors see as ground rules for what any future health care system should — and should not — include.

“All I’m trying to do is protect the individual’s right to make health care decisions,” said State Representative Tom Emmer, a Republican. “I just don’t want the government getting between my decisions with my doctors.”

Many who favor a federal overhaul of health care say it can be affordable only if nearly everyone is required to carry insurance, but the efforts by these state lawmakers actually predate the Obama administration and the current federal health care debate.

Proposed constitutional amendments began cropping up after 2006, when Massachusetts enacted a sweeping state measure meant to create nearly universal health coverage for residents. Elsewhere, some leaders — opposed to the possibility of insurance mandates or government-run systems — began suggesting constitutional amendments to block such measures from their own states.

In Arizona, with help from Dr. Eric Novack — an orthopedic surgeon who says his intent was not “some grand secessionist plot” but merely a health care overhaul with protections for individuals’ rights — an amendment first went before voters in 2008. It was defeated, but by fewer than 9,000 votes among more than two million cast.

This year, Arizona’s Legislature, controlled by Republicans in both chambers, voted to put the question back on the ballot in 2010.

Few in the public seemed focused on health care a year ago, those involved in Arizona’s ballot question said, but the recent debate over a federal overhaul has changed all that, and proponents of the amendment believe that will improve its chances both in Arizona and in other states, where similar efforts have taken root.

The federal proposals, though, have also changed the potential fallout if such amendments were to pass.

Clint Bolick, litigation director at the Goldwater Institute, a conservative research group based in Arizona that favors free enterprise, and who has helped lead Arizona’s efforts, said he believed the inevitable “legal clash” — if the federal government adopts a health care law and if states change their constitutions — was winnable for the states.

Although the United States Constitution’s supremacy clause ordinarily allows federal law to, in essence, trump a state law that conflicts with it, Mr. Bolick said that was not always the case, depending on “the strength of the state interest.” Mr. Bolick said he viewed two recent Supreme Court cases, related to an education question in Arizona and a utility district in Texas as indications that the current court might be open to such a state claim.

But several other legal experts said they saw little room for such a challenge. “States can no more nullify a federal law like this than they could nullify the civil rights laws by adopting constitutional amendments,” said Timothy Stoltzfus Jost, a health law expert at Washington & Lee University School of Law.

Mark A. Hall, a law professor at Wake Forest University who has studied the constitutionality of mandates that people buy health insurance, said, “There is no way this challenge will succeed in court,” adding that the state measures seemed more “sort of an act of defiance, a form of civil disobedience if you will.”

Even Randy E. Barnett, a Georgetown law school professor who has written about what he views as legitimateconstitutional questions about health insurance mandates, seemed doubtful.
“While using federal power to force individuals to buy private insurance raises serious constitutional questions,” Professor Barnett said, “I just don’t see what these state resolutions add to the constitutional objections to this expansion of federal power.”

In Minnesota, even before the prospect of a court clash, Mr. Emmer appears to have an uphill battle ahead. Before voters can consider amending the state’s Constitution, Mr. Emmer needs approval from the Legislature, which is dominated by Democrats. He has offered the Health Care Freedom Act in years past, but it has never made its way to a vote, and Margaret Anderson Kelliher, a Democrat and speaker of the House who is also among the wide field of candidates for governor, said last week that she doubted it stood much of a chance this time either.

“Most legislators are interested in improving the health of Minnesotans, and how to do more health care reform,” Ms. Kelliher said. “No one thinks the answer is a states’ right movement.”

Still, Mr. Emmer, who is a candidate for governor, says he is hopeful. He emphasizes that such an amendment — regardless of court battles over a federal plan — would certainly spare Minnesotans from the potential downsides of some future state health care plan.

And this whole amendment notion, he said, would not prevent anyone from taking part in a federal health program; it would merely block people from being forced to do so.

As for legal experts’ discounting the states’ chances of trumping a federal plan, Mr. Emmer seemed unconvinced.

“They’re essentially saying that state constitutions are meaningless,” he said, “and I disagree.
“And tell me where in the U.S. Constitution it says the federal government has the right to provide health care? This is the essence of the debate.”


Wednesday, July 6, 2011

Waitress Unloads On MN GOP Governor Candidate Emmer

Uploaded by UpTakeVideo on Jul 14, 2010
A waitress from Keys Restaurant reads back Minnesota GOP candidate for Governor Tom Emmer's own words about waitress wages being responsible for increased menu prices at Minnesota restaurants. ;Tom Emmer responds.Full meeting video to be posted soon.

Tuesday, July 5, 2011

Open challenge to Tom Tom Emmer. Go for it Tom!

I challenge Tom Emmer to debate - in a large public place of his choosing - on topics he raises in his "rant" against Carl Gibson and myself, ASAP.  How 'bout the Saint Paul Hotel ballroom, Tom, where people can come and watch and listen and decide for themselves who is "on the right page" and who is not.  Bring your guests, I'll try to provide a few, too.  Oh, I had a better idea - how about at Keys Restaurant! Man that would be fun.  I don't think too many waiters and waitresses are too thrilled to see you, but we can work around that.

is certainly welcome (and hard to come by I've noticed) BUT I am just poor poor poor and would like to point that out to people. You have maligned my friends and shown a lack of courtesy to visitors to our state publically.  Give me a chance to counter your "charges" .  I love to talk about budgets:  Let's talk about mine.

We can discuss anarchism, we can discuss why I worked for Mark Dayton's election, we can discuss why we bullhorn right wingers and have many many choice chants to use to wake people up that the right wingers are attempting to hijack our State. The Koch brothers are here, Tom. Would you like to talk about it with an audience?  Or do you just like to sling mud and be "entertaining" for your "fans" and sockpuppets?

We can "discuss" the 36,000 plus reasons to Stop the State SHUTDOWN and why the budget stalemate is a symptom, not the cause.

We can talk about cognitive dissonance, grief, trauma, homelessness, despair, loss of hope, hunger, enslavement -  and then about the five-star dinners your friends enjoy.  My friends go to food banks, just like me.

I will debate you, Tom - and I will ask you how you feel about the 36,000 retirements and "furloughs" while plenty of Legislators are accepting their pay checks and health benefits.  This while many State employees enter STARVATION level incomes.  They wonder how to feed their kids this summer while they are home from school.  You know, basic stuff.  Food, shelter, clothing - a need to have lives with stimulation.  Lives that are now seeing the reality of austerity.

I will ask you to explain the sense of sending hundreds (12,000) to nursing homes at the cost of $60,000 per year (do you and your friends have investments in them?) when helping them live independently only costs $15,000 per year to the taxpayer.

I will challenge you, Tom Emmer, to tell me just how many Republican legislators in this state belong to the American Legislative Exchange Council and/or swore oaths to Grover Norquist while trying to GUT protections for vulnerable children - and fail teenagers who have been beaten by their dysfunctional families. These are runaways who have no shelter accomodations despite years of attempts by concerned citizens to achieve that simple goal.  The state is failing our young, isn't it, Tom Emmer ?

And you worry about bullhorns?  When everything including prisons are up for the grab of privatization, the perpetual money machines for your PAC people?

I will ask why my friend who is disabled cannot work as an accountant any more because he has not enough PCA help was a "reform" of a "bad" system.

I want to debate you about dog whistle politics, bafflegab, greediness, sourness, lack of compassion and honest shame as well as the robotronics so evident in our MN GOP led by Tony Sutton.

I want to know why the closure of 77 State Parks doesn't bother you - and all the loss of tourist dollars is less important than discussing my friends - friends who stay with me in a State housing grant financed apartment I am about to lose.

I want to know, Tom, why it is that the MN Chamber of Commerce did not complain long and loud about the cutting of the LGA grants and why you kept your mouth shut about it.  Do police, firemen, snow removal, and other "amenities" of Main Street mean less than the allegiance to reckless Wall Street in your playbook of politics?

I want to know why the St. Paul police sent in thousands of dollar$ worth of cops, bicycles, squad cars to cover a demonstration of 35 people in 100 degree heat who merely wanted to say:  "Tax the rich!  Help the needy" and "Money Outta Politics" and "End Corporate Tyranny!"  Maybe you have some forceful ideas about public unsafety.  [pun intended]

Why are YOU allowing the looney right to say GAWDAWFUL things about Mark Dayton, make up websites in other states spouting lies about US Uncut - and then taking them down? Why do you allow YOUR followers to call for the impeachment/recall of Mark Dayton when your party has gravenly, with malice aforethought and nonfeasance RUINED our state for GOD KNOWS how long?

How do you feel about US Uncut MN calling for the recall of ALL GOP legislators?

Wanna have a verbal rumble, Tom?  Wanna get it down on the record? Wanna have it help me get US Uncut and US Uncut Minnesota on the national media where you say it belongs?

Then, hey, Tom!  Take the bait - let's go for the gold here on the press circuit.  I am ready.  I am willing.  I am CHARGED and on fire !  I am sick to death of being treated like a second-class citizen in my own home state. I don't appreciate my friends who come to visit me being chastised in print.  It's a RIGHT for them to come here and express their right to free speech and freedom of assembly - or don't you know that?

We can discuss what is wrong in MN in the media, the indifference of the left and the unions here to promote unity, the mealy agenda of the professional poverty industry lackies who aren't losing their Saabs and Volvos - but spoke for the victims of cuts while the true victims were left UNHEARD.  Tom. Tom.  I beg you to understand why Carl and I give them bullhorns to  be heard above the deafening silence of their plight. The supposed advocates saying:  "We should settle for no new taxes as it's "politically astute."  I keep wondering who "we" is. Sigh.

We can discuss what sane, responsible moderates might do to understand what is going on this State, eh?

We can discuss what cognitive dissonance is, what red herrings are and why you get paid to write drivel and innuendo when you can so easily give me a ring.  My number and email address appears on the lit "SOMEONE" gave you.  Give me a call.  Let's set a date, time, place.  We can elucidate the why, the who, the where, the how, the why.  Would you like "my people" to call "your people" ???

Wanna know where I get my money to promote events, Tom?  Do you want to know if  I ever met George Soros?

I'll bet I can answer your most intriguing questions, Tom.  Let's give it a shot !!

Here's to a MN handy dandy spectacle for the citizen's benefit.

Kiss, kiss, hug, hug.

Virginia Simson, Uncutter Deluxe (who has never ever been an anarchist of any kind)

Emmer: Who Is "US Uncut" & Why Isn't The Main Stream Media Interested?

http://www.ktlkfm.com/pages/davisandemmer.html?article=8789034


Take a look at these documents that I received them from a friend. More proof of how our local news media fail to serve us . . . It starts with a couple "harmless photos" from the Star Tribune photo essay on the day of the shutdown.
One of the photos introduces us to Carl Gibson. Carl likes to travel with a bull horn from Mississippi - in fact the photo says Carl is "just visiting from Mississippi".
Where are the probing questions for Carl from the Reporters? For instance, at a minimum why didn't they ask: "Who are you? Why the bull horn? What group? Who funds your group...? Nope, none of these questions mattered because . . . he's just visiting...
Turns out -if our inquiring media had bothered to check they would have learned that - Carl has started an Anarchist group modeled after a similar group in England Called UK Uncut. His group is US Uncut. He is the co-founder, organizer, and spokesman for the organization. There are now 20 state chapters across the country since they founded it in 2011 to push that Corporate tax cheats should pay up.
Our media, had they bothered to look, easily could have found several rallies in California against Bank of America by US Uncut that were sponsored by Democracy in Action which has ties to George Soros; but I guess that's not news. There is also another story which says that Carl has with the US Uncut organization reached out to the SEIU Service Employee International Union to partner with them.
(blog on Minnesota US Uncut shutdown rally)
US Uncut website:
Check out this June rally US Uncut participated in Chicago blog entry from June:
Chicago had to have 200 police officers at this rally for protection of property/safety.


Read more: http://www.ktlkfm.com/pages/davisandemmer.html?article=8789034#ixzz1RIro6aRW




 

  • Virginia Simson · Brown Institute
    Welcome to the real world, folks. Where those who are morally outraged by 2/3 of corporations NOT PAYING TAXES while you do, makes us outraged. Where we are smart enough to realize that military spending and TARP bailouts do not help the United States and we get up and complain about it long and loud.

    While the Republicans, closet neocons in the Democratic Party and others bicker about which sector of the United States population will have to do without, so you can build MORE bombs, fight more wars, bail out more banks and reckless investors and flex your arrogant, flaccid muscles - while the rest of us will try to find jobs, try to keep our homes, pay over $4.00 for gas and skip lunch, praying we do not get sick.

    We wonder why laws made by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC - give it a google) and "positions" taken...See More
  • Virginia Simson · Brown Institute
    Hey, Tom, I've done pretty well to make an "enemy" of you. Want to debate? I would SO love that.

    BTW, ever watch a video on youtube called The Empathic Civilization? If not, I strongly suggest it to you and any buddies you have in ALEC. Since YOU are the media, why not find out how many COPS, alphabet soupers, squad cars, hours in meetings at taxpayer expense it cost to watch us "anarchists" (hahahaha) who paraded through downtown Saint Paul on Thursday? Why not ask the Mayor, which is what I told bystanders who were appalled at St. Paul trying to reconstruct the RNC here..
    I am sure you have my phone number already, but in case you need it again to have a little schmooze on the air - call googlevoice 612 236 8469. We'll have a little verbal rumble, eh?
    There are 36,000 reasons to STOP a State shutdown.. and I'd like to discuss ALL of them w/you.
    • Jeanette Eastman
      I like what Virginia said, NOT TOM EMMER! "Pap" talked about ALEC on Ring of Fire over the weekend.
    • Tom Baxter ·  Top Commenter · Reference Librarian at State of Florida
      I read this on my wall and asked myself: Which Virgina is this? and What did I do to piss her off? I then realized she was using my name to refer to someone else.
    • Deborah Pflepsen · 47 years old
      How is things going is everyone still meeting at the state capital today at 430pm just would like to know well i am trying but if i dont understand why i keep thinking life is fine when children handicaps unions child care just dislike them being hurt because rich to paid they own taxes now stop playing with others life amen
  • Johnny Winderphern · Boss at Callahan Auto Parts
    "...an Anarchist group..."
    "...founded it in 2011 to push that Corporate tax cheats should pay up."

    Wouldn't an Anarchist group push for no taxes at all, as taxes are a part of GOVERNMENT?
    • Johnny Winderphern · Boss at Callahan Auto Parts
      Also, would a representative from said anarchist group be protesting a GOVERNMENT shutdown?
      • Anthony Charoensook · Friends with Carl R. Gibson
        Wow Fox News really does hire morons...



      • Lance J. Gosnell · Madison, Wisconsin
        Ignoring that you call US Uncut an anarchist organization, I do agree with you the media has forgotten its role as a public service. Instead it has become one of the largest tools of the government and corporatiions to sidetrack the people from the truth. Small town news stories are blown up into national stores because of the potentional ad revenue. Also, on a occasions that news story about the calories found in that new burger is sometimes nothing more than a product placed ad. Maybe instead of buying into the rhetoric that suggest there are anarchist in the midst how about focusing on why haven't the banks and other corporations which got tarp money repaid it or used it to expand their operations thus putting American's back to work?
        • Bruce Boyce
          And its okay for tea party groups to be funded by Freedom Works and republican politicians such as Scott Walker funded by the Koch Bros?
        • Nikki Tavi Gilman · 39 years old
          Har har har! You are so funny with this article! I'm a proud member of US Uncut, and sorry, but I'm not an anarchist, nor am I a devil. I'm just a college student, full time auto mechanic, mother of two, wife of an engineer, homemaker, and drag racer...need to know anything else about our members. We would be more than happy to let you in on our 'secret' life...IF YOU STOP SPOUTING BULLSHIT AND CALLING IT NEWS! What are you? An idiot? Judas, where do they get these people? And where in the hell do they come up with this crap? Sorry honey, but you are out of line with this article. Go blow smoke around those who are unwilling to be educated - you'll get a better response there. C'ya! ;)
        • Brenda Church · Friends with Nancy Lloyd
          I'm glad they are getting attention! I pay taxes why doesn't GE or Bank of America?
        • Brenda Church · Friends with Nancy Lloyd
          No Fox story can be published without Soros being mentioned.